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    "I have played tennis since I was five." vs "I have been playing tennis since I was five."

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    "I have played tennis since I was five." vs "I have been playing tennis since I was five."

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    Liebe Leos,


    es geht um die beiden oberen Sätze, d.h. Present Perfect vs. Present Perfect Progressive.


    1) Sind beide Sätze grammatikalisch möglich?

    2) Bedeutet die Verwendung des Present Perfect, dass ich jetzt nicht mehr Tennis spiele?


    Vielen Dank für die Hilfe!

    AuthorDemandeuse (735773)  05 May 22, 15:17
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    1) ja, aber die Bedeutung ist unterschiedlich:


    Erster Satz (simple): Du übst diesen Sport aus, seit du 5 bist.

    Zweiter Satz (progressive): Du läufst seit Jahrzehnten, nämlich seit du 5 warst, ununterbrochen tennisspielend über den Platz. (Was eher unwahrscheinlich sein dürfte.)


    2) Nein, es wird einfach eingesetzt, um zu zeigen, dass Du seit einem bestimmten Zeitpunkt spielst. Also immer noch. Die Verwendung von "since" erfordert das Present Perfect.



    Da das Present Perfect zwar die schönste/interessanteste, aber auch die schwierigste der englischen Zeitformen ist und ich Deutsch als Muttersprache habe, sollte nochmal ein ENS schauen, ob ich das richtig erklärt habe oder Korrekturbedarf besteht.

    #1Author Möwe [de] (534573)  05 May 22, 15:24
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    If you wanted to say that you had been playing tennis nonstop since X time, you would have to say e.g. "I've been playing tennis since 5 p.m." - not "I've played tennis since 5 p.m."

    However, as you obviously haven't been playing tennis nonstop since you were 5, you can also say "I've been playing tennis since I was 5" and that means the same thing as "I've played tennis since I was 5".

    #2Author CM2DD (236324) 05 May 22, 16:41
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    https://www.google.de/books/edition/Oxford_Pr...

    4. "We use the Present Perfect Continuous for actions that are done many times in a period of time from the past until now."

    #3Author CM2DD (236324)  05 May 22, 16:45
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    Da es im Moment 1:1 steht:


    Zweiter Satz (progressive): Du läufst seit Jahrzehnten, nämlich seit du 5 warst, ununterbrochen tennisspielend über den Platz.


    ist nicht richtig. Wie CM2DD in #2 sagt, gibt es hier keinen Bedeutungsunterschied.

    #4Author Gibson (418762) 05 May 22, 16:56
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    I would choose the second alternative, "I've been playing ..." The first alternative, "I've played tennis since I was five" seems off, in a way that I wish I could describe but I can't quite put my finger on.


    PS, what would work for me, though, is a sentence like "I've played tennis, every now and then, since I was five." "I've been playing tennis..." implies a more continuous engagement with the sport. At least that's how I see it.

    #5Author Martin--cal (272273)  05 May 22, 18:34
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    Vielen Dank an alle Lions für die Hilfe!

    @ #5 - Martin--cal : Genauso empfinde ich es auch, war mir als Nicht-Muttersprachler aber natürlich nicht sicher, ob mein Gefühl da richtig liegt. Vielen Dank auch für die ergänzenden Sätze!! Das hilft sehr bei der Einordnung.

    #6AuthorDemandeuse (735773) 18 May 22, 20:51
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    re. #5


    "I've played tennis since I was five" seems off, in a way that I wish I could describe but I can't quite put my finger on.

    I think I might know...


    For me,


    "I've played tennis since I was five" sounds ok if I'm thinking of it as meaning "I've been a person who plays tennis since I was five" (I've been that kind of person this whole time: something started in the past and continues in the present).


    This is easy (for me) if I say "I've". But if I say "I have played tennis since I was five" my American brain takes me to the other meaning of the present perfect (emphasis on the perfect): something that happened (an activity that was completed) in the past, but is important in the present.

    I haven't tried to eat a tennis ball since I was five, but I have played tennis.


    I don't know that there is an AE/BE difference here, but I've noticed than a BE speaker who often edits my texts often replaces my present perfect progressives with present perfects, so maybe...?

    #7AuthorAE procrastinator (1268904) 18 May 22, 21:54
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    I would choose the second alternative, "I've been playing ..." The first alternative, "I've played tennis since I was five" seems off, in a way that I wish I could describe but I can't quite put my finger on. (#5)


    That's how I see it too.

    #8Author Stravinsky (637051) 18 May 22, 22:47
     
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