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    plain doughnuts and hot cider.

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    Hallo!

    The setting is "a fine day in the first week of September", mit einem kristallklaren blauen Himmel und "a trace of coolness in the air". In dem spazierengehenden Protagonisten regt sich ein herbstlicher Appetit auf plain doughnuts und hot cider.


    Ich habe gegoogelt, aber zu "plain doughnuts" nichts wirklich Erhellendes gefunden. Entweder sind das Doughnuts ohne alles oder es ist so eine Art Schmalzgebäck. Der Text machte auf mich den Eindruck, es handele sich um eine herbstliche Gebäckspezialität in den USA.

    Author newcallas (413706) 19 Apr 23, 11:06
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    Donuts ohne alles und Cider. Scheint ein thing zu sein in bestimmten Gegenden der USA. Manche tunken offenbar die Donuts in den Cider.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/pl...

    https://www.franklincidermill.com/donuts-cider/

    https://cidermillendicott.com/our-goods/#doughnuts

    #1Author Mattes (236368)  19 Apr 23, 11:22
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    Danke, Mattes!

    #2Author newcallas (413706) 19 Apr 23, 16:09
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    Im Deutschen ist der "Donut ohne alles" bzw. dessen Bezeichnung wohl etwas länger als im Englischen : Donut ohne Glasur und ohne Füllung

    :-)

    #3Author no me bré (700807)  19 Apr 23, 17:27
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    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/10/...

    NPR has a short article about this pairing -

    And, as Krondl notes, at the same time that Levitt's donut machine was taking over, another phenomenon was happening — the rise of the automobile.

    "It's the collision of the automobile, automation and advertising," says Krondl. "You've got these machines [...]. And you begin to have these farm stands, particularly near urban areas, where people can go on a Sunday drive. [...] And the donuts went perfectly with the cider these farm stands were already pressing.

    #4AuthorAE procrastinator (1268904) 19 Apr 23, 17:39
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    Yummy. Is this alcoholic cider or "apple cider"?

    #5Author CM2DD (236324) 20 Apr 23, 14:36
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    Both are served with donuts. Does sound good, even in springtime.

    If I hear of apple cider being sold at a farm stand in the US, my first thought would be the non-alcoholic kind.

    I usually call the hard stuff "hard cider", not because it isn't also apple cider (unless it's not pear cider etc.), it's just easier to avoid the ambiguity.

    #6AuthorAE procrastinator (1268904) 20 Apr 23, 17:44
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    Im Gegensatz zu #3 würde ich sagen, daß plain donuts durchaus eine Glasur haben. Aber eben nur ganz einfachen Zuckerguss, nicht Schokolade oder andere Geschmacksrichtung und auch keine Zuckerstreusel. Amerikanische Donuts sind üeher selten gefüllt.

    #7Author Ina R. (425467) 20 Apr 23, 19:31
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    Für die Unterscheidung zwischen Apfelsäften mit und ohne Alkohol gibt es in Südbaden* die praktischen Begriffe saurer und süßer Most.

    * Ich vermute, dass das auch anderswo gebräuchlich ist, aber von da kenne ich es eben.
    #8Author grinsessa (1265817) 21 Apr 23, 07:50
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    If I hear of apple cider being sold at a farm stand in the US, my first thought would be the non-alcoholic kind.

    I usually call the hard stuff "hard cider"

    Agree. Also, in most places in the US, some sort of license would be required to sell an alcoholic beverage, and I doubt that any farm stands would want to deal with that -- or in many cases, even be able to get a license.

    RE #7: I disagree. If it has some sort of glaze on it at all, it's still a glazed donut. A plain donut usually wouldn't have any type of glaze on it at all. Perhaps some people would consider a doughnut with a fine coating of plain sugar to be a plain doughnut, but I wouldn't. I much prefer the totally plain ones. When they are fresh, there's a nice bit of a crust on it. It doesn't look like Dunkin' Donuts here in Germany offers plain doughnuts (there's one just a few blocks from me that I go by often but have never stopped in, especially because they offer only the sicky-sweet heavily glazed doughnuts), While I can't access the company's site in the US, screenshots of it and sites such as I'll link below show that their "plain donut" is indeed that -- totally plain.

    Also, Dunkin' does indeed sell a variety of filled donuts, and JFK's classic "Berliner" is typically translated as a "jelly doughnut"--which is a well-known variety of a filled doughnut.

    https://www.delish.com/food/a42612/dunkin-don...


    #9Author hbberlin (420040) 21 Apr 23, 10:18
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    I will have to go over to the States again some day and simply tour round eating all the food. These things sound so up my street :)

    #10Author CM2DD (236324) 21 Apr 23, 10:24
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    Ich war mal in den USA an der Uni. Um die Leute zu einer Vortragsreihe zu locken, gab es vorher Coffee and Donuts. Plain und alle anderen Varianten, mit und ohne Guckloch. Abgesehen vom Variantenreichtum hat mich hauptsächlich überrascht, wie riesig diese Dinger sind. Und noch schlimmer: Trotzdem will man immer noch einen zweiten.

    #11Author grinsessa (1265817) 21 Apr 23, 10:51
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    Re #11: I've never seen a doughnut in the US as over-dimensioned as the "Johannisbeerschnecken mit Streusel" sold at many bakeries here in Berlin (nor are the doughnuts there usually quite as sweet as those things -- but they are in close competition.).

    Of course, there many places that make doughnuts in the US, and their products can surely vary in size.

    #12Author hbberlin (420040) 21 Apr 23, 12:17
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    Danke

    #13Author vetotis2 (1398580) 29 Jul 23, 11:32
     
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