Erst mal muss ich anmerken, dass mich das Wort "präraffaelitisch" zunächst vor ein Rätsel gestellt hat. Und die Suchmaschine meines Vertrauens hatte auch nicht viel Erhellendes.:-)

Evtl. hat Dein Satz etwas mit einem Vergleich der Darstellung von Weiblichkeit zwischen Raffel und z.B. Rubens zu tun.

#3 Oedipa doesn't mention the English term: Pre-Raphaelite(s).

OP, #1: No, it doesn't make sense to me either.

I agree it is a bit unclear, but (if one cannot ask the author) I would be inclined to assume that it means that the figure is gendered to some degree, rather than being entirely androgenous.

Masculinity seems to me rather heavily foregrounded in that picture (much more than in the one I was looking at). I’d almost be inclined to interpret it more in #1’s sense: “weighted toward / in favor of a particular gender.”

Unless the context very clearly indicates otherwise, I'd definitely understand "gendered" as Bion writes in #10.

Tut mir leid, wenn ich auf der Leitung sitze, aber mir ist der Sinn des Ausdrucks immer noch nicht klar. Die Figur ist meiner Wahrnehmung nach absolut androgyn, ohne klare Zuschreibung. Wie kann sie dann "ziemlich eindeutig einem Geschlecht zugehörig/zuzuordnen" sein (Zitat aus #1) bzw. welches Geschlecht ist überhaupt gemeint? Männlich (wie Bion in #10 andeutet)? Weiblich?

I think you may need to ask the author of the sentence that.

Are you translating this? If asking the author is really not an option, I still think you will have to assume "eher" gendered.

It is possible that it is simply an erroneous auto-correction of "agendered" (my Word-spellchecker marks that word as incorrect, for instance).

Edit: eher is already cheating a bit, it it were "agendered" I would be tempted to translate "rather" as "ziemlich".

Ich finde deine These, dass es sich um einen Tipp- oder Korrekturfehler handelt, sehr plausibel. Wenn man "agendered" statt "gendered" einfügt, ergibt der Satz plötzlich Sinn. Ich werde beim Auftraggeber nachfragen und melde mich, wenn ich etwas gehört habe.

Danke Euch allen!

"agendered"? Seems very unlikely. The natural opposite of "gendered", if you were to coin a new word, would be "ungendered", it seems to me. But we have the word "androgynous", so there is no need to invent a new one.

Edit - "epicene" is another possibility.

Hmm. I thought "agendered" was a word, actually. Androgenous means having characteristics of male and female genders right? I thought agendered would be having no gender characteristics. Certainly "agender" is a word.

Re: agendered typo theory... I am certainly not convinced either. It just struck me as a possiblity and one more reason to ask the author what they meant if the sentence is being translated. It does look less and less likely in view of your objections though.

If asking really is not an option, I don't see how one could do other than translate it as written.

Vielleicht - Blau ist meine Lieblingsfarbe :-)

re #27: Ah, danke , jetzt seh sogar ich blau :-)

Nochmal als Einzelbild: https://fg-art-lifestyle.com/wp-content/uploa...

Die versprochene Nachfrage bei der Autorin ist, wie ich gerade erfahren habe, leider nicht möglich; wir müssen uns mit unseren Vermutungen zufrieden geben... Auf jeden Fall vielen Dank Euch allen!

Bin kein Übersetzer, deshalb die etwas laienhafte Frage: Was machst du jetzt mit diesem Text? Also wenn man sich als Übersetzer nicht sicher ist, wie eine bestimmte Passage gemeint ist und mit Recherchen nicht weiterkommt, wie löst man das? (Falls die Frage im Allgemeinen schon an anderer Stelle beantwortet wurde: Sorry, hab ich nicht gefunden!)

(I don’t know of a place where this question might have been discussed already either.)

I don’t think there’s much one can do but make a decision as to what it does mean—and translate that. I’ve often been confronted with imponderables of the kind, gone ahead, made my decision plus a marginal note (“Is this your intended sense?” “Is this the author’s intended sense?” “I take it this is what the author means” “The E. is not unambiguous here”) or not. In the present case it seems to me to be a choice between “weighted toward one gender” or “making play with / weighted with both gender(s).” Or rather I think those are the two options that I would narrow it down to, and then go ahead and decide what works together best with the surrounding context, tone and tenor of the piece as a whole.

Ich stimme Bion zu - man trifft nach bestem Wissen eine Entscheidung und erläutert sie im Kommentar für den Verlag bzw. das Lektorat. In den allermeisten Fällen ist es allerdings üblich und möglich, bei den AutorInnen nachzufragen.

HIer war das nicht möglich bzw. nicht nötig, weil der Text nun doch nicht in einen geplanten Sammelband aufgenommen wird...

@Oedipa, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know how you end up translating "rather gendered".

As I said above: Luckily, I didn't have to decide that, as the German publication of the text in question was cancelled . (So asking the author is impossible, too ...)

The author is a woman from NY City; as for the figure, it is described as "androgynous" elsewhere.

This actually makes me wonder if this is a mistake by the author that wasn't caught by editors, because "rather gendered" and "androgynous" are clearly two very different things.

Are they so different? You could describe David Bowie as androgynous or as rather feminine for a man, couldn't you?

"Rather gendered" to me indicates that the figure is clearly to be read as more feminine or more masculine, whereas "androgynous" means that they've got aspects of both. The only thing that complicates the former is the "rather", which leaves the meaning more vague, but "gendered" would still indicate an either/or (unless there's a secondary, contradictory meaning that I'm not aware of), whereas "androgynous" is the opposite of that.

It's possible that it's meant like that, but then it sounds to me like the text (or at least that sentence) is pretty badly written. There'd be much better, clearer ways of expressing these thoughts. Though perhaps it's clearer in the context of the entire text.