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    chossy

    [geol.][verb]
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    So I'm a rock climber and heard the term "chossy" many times in the UK.

    Here's an example: https://www.climbing.com/skills/choss-rock/

    Comment

    German would be "bröckelig".

    Author me-just-me (1357310) 29 Nov 22, 00:49
    Sources

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chossy

    Adjective

    chossy (comparative more chossy, superlative most chossy)

    1. (climbing, of rock) Unsuitable for rock climbing, e.g. because it is too soft, unstable, or overgrown.


    Comment

    zum Klettern ungeeignet, unbesteigbar würde ich sagen.


    Falls du die deutsche Entsprechung suchst bitte nächstes Mal das Forum Deutsch gesucht auswählen.

    #1Author buttermaker (826321)  29 Nov 22, 01:06
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    Hallo me-just-me, willkommen im Forum!


    In Deinem Link steht loose terrain, loose and friable rock.

    Das wäre lockeres Gestein, bröckeliger Fels. Zitate und Bilder in Google passen dazu.


    Falls Du einen Neueintrag vorschlagen willst, gibts hier im Forum user guide eine Anleitung: https://tdict.leo.org/pages/forum/ende/manual... #7


    Beispiele findest Du hier https://tdict.leo.org/forum/previewWrongentry...


    Um Missverständnisse zu vermeiden, ist es hier im Forum üblich, in der Muttersprache zu posten.

    #2Author manni3 (305129)  29 Nov 22, 02:07
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    Dazu auch :


    http://www.climbingtechniques.org/climbing-vo...

     Climbing Lingo and Vocabulary

     ... Choss/Chossy- Rock that is not solid and likely to fall off under pressure. Rock like this is chossy. ...


    #3Author no me bré (700807) 29 Nov 22, 09:48
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    OED "Of rock, a rock face, etc.: friable, crumbly, loose; consisting of such rock, esp. characterized as unsafe or unpleasant to climb."

    Useful word by the sound of it.

    #4Author CM2DD (236324) 29 Nov 22, 13:49
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    A question to other AE speakers: Do you know of this word outside of a BE context?

    It's not included in M-W and AHD, but it's possible that it is used as jargon by rock climbers in the US. (I know nothing about that.)

    #5Author hbberlin (420040) 29 Nov 22, 16:00
    Sources

    https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/35935787#eid11...

    choss

     2. Rock Climbing and Mountaineering. Friable, crumbly, or loose rock, typically considered unsafe or unpleasant to climb. Cf. chossy adj.

    1963   A. Greenbank Instr. Rock Climbing vi. 71  The first climb..up broken, vegetation-clad rocks simply used to lead the climber to one hard pitch, and then get him off by another section of ‘choss’.

    1975   Sc. Mountaineering Club Jrnl. No. 166. 329  ‘If that's typical of the Taurus Mountains it seems a long way to go to climb a heap of choss’ he muttered.

    2014   L. B. Crompton Adrenaline Crush ii. 16  My stomach plummets and I quickly examine the surrounding rock face for other signs of choss.



    https://www.oed.com/view/Entry/35712834?redir...

    chossyadj.

     

    Rock Climbing and Mountaineering.

     

     Of rock, a rock face, etc.: friable, crumbly, loose; consisting of such rock, esp. characterized as unsafe or unpleasant to climb.

    1965   Climber Mar. 24/1  We start slithering down, facing outwards, on chossy slabs leading to the rows of cars looking from here like paints in a paintbox.

    1984   Sc. Mountaineering Club Jrnl. No. 175. 62  Climb the jamming crack just left of an obvious chossy chimney.

    1996   Climbing 1 Feb. 103/2  Beware of its heinous loose approach and wet, chossy rock.

    2012   S. M. Green Rock Climbing Utah (new ed.) 488/2  The diverse layers of limestone, at first glance, appear chossy and devoid of good holds.


    Comment

    I'd never heard it either, and I'm BE. It's not in Cambridge, Oxford Learners, Macmillan, Collins. I'm also not a climber (although my husband's a keen climber).


    The final sentence in the OED examples comes from Rock Climbing Utah! And I've googled LB Crompton (final sample sentence for 'choss') -- she seems to be a US author.


    edit: my husband hasn't heard the word either, and wondered if it was a US term 😂

    #6Author papousek (343122)  29 Nov 22, 16:05
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    "choss" erscheint in der Vokabularliste auf dieser Homepage http://www.climbingtechniques.org/climbing-vo...

    Choss/Chossy- Rock that is not solid and likely to fall off under pressure. Rock like this is chossy.


    Aus dem übrigen Text geht hervor, dass beide Autoren aus den USA stammen.

    #7Author manni3 (305129)  29 Nov 22, 16:43
    Comment

    re #7, schau mal in die #3 ...

    :-)


    PS : ich hab' den Ausdruck in keinem meiner englischen (BE- und AE-)Online-Wöbü gefunden ... das OED (cf. #6) war da allerdings nicht dabei ... dafür gibt es jede Menge englischsprachige Glossare zum Thema Klettern, in denen der Begriff erklärt wird ...

    #8Author no me bré (700807) 29 Nov 22, 16:59
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    In #3 steht nix zum Kontext USA ;-)

    #9Author manni3 (305129)  29 Nov 22, 17:21
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    In diesem elitären Kletterforum https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/1... wird auch der Frage, nach dem woher nachgegangen, den besten Post habe ich aber am Schluss gelesen, sehr lustig und erklärt vieles.


    Auszug:

    "Brits don't need a reason or an excuse to make up words for things."

    Na, dann ist doch alles klar...

    #10Author buttermaker (826321) 29 Nov 22, 20:03
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    #6: I don’t know whether it’s also AE, but “chossy” is definitely a common term among BE climbers.
    #11Author Spike BE (535528) 29 Nov 22, 23:44
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    Spike, my #6 was really a response to #5 questioning whether chossy was in use in AE. I was already convinced by the rest of the thread that it was in use in BE in climbing circles. But the fact that it's unknown outside of climbing circles made me think that perhaps it was also in use in AE, hence looking more closely at the sources of the OED sentences.

    #12Author papousek (343122) 02 Dec 22, 11:31
     
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