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    Saalschlacht

    [hist.]
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    Ich meine Saalschlachten, wie sie z.B. in den 20er u. 30er Jahren häufig bei politischen Veranstaltungen stattfanden, etwa zwischen Nazis und Kommunisten.

    Mir will gerade partout nichts gescheites einfallen. Danke für gute Ideen.
    Authorpaleo (231992) 22 Jun 07, 10:17
    SuggestionMeeting Hall Battle
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    #1Authordannniii (329261) 22 Jun 07, 10:30
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    @dannniii: Ich habe meine Zweifel, ob diese Übersetzung den Bedeutungsgehalt von "Saalschlacht" verständlich transportiert. Zwar finde ich einige Googletreffer (15 an der Zahl), mir klingt Meeting Hall Battle, aber ehrlich gesagt, reichlich babelfischig.
    #2Authorpaleo (231992) 22 Jun 07, 10:50
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    na ja...dann warten wir auf eine besseren Vorschlag...
    #3Authordannniii (329261) 22 Jun 07, 10:52
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    http://www.dict.cc/?s=Saalschlacht schlägt vor:
    brawl at a political meeting
    roughhouse [coll.]

    Was meinen die native speakers?
    #4Authorpaleo (231992) 22 Jun 07, 12:27
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    roughhouse is associated in my mind too much with harmless, even mock fights/wrestling such as between fathers and sons

    "brawls at political meetings" is clear as is danniii's suggestion
    #5AuthorRichard22 Jun 07, 12:32
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    riots at political gatherings
    #6AuthorSteveG22 Jun 07, 12:47
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    http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/okrass.htm

    Background: 
    The great Nazi myth was that of the Kampfzeit, the period from 1918-1933 when the Nazi Party struggled for power. The party's early followers were presented almost as the apostles of the Christian tradition, the first to follow the new faith. One of the most fondly remembered experiences was the Saalschlacht, the meeting hall battle in which the outnumbered Nazis fought to defend their meeting from the onslaught of their enemies.
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    #7Authordannniii (329261) 22 Jun 07, 12:53
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    The fall of yet another Thai prime minister in a no-confidence debate in Parliament that had all the hallmarks of a political slaughterhouse suggests that Thailand's chronic political instability may be on a par with Italy's.
    http://www.iht.com/articles/1996/09/25/edhand...
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    political slaughterhouse
    perhaps?
    #8Authorwpr (236109) 22 Jun 07, 13:00
    Suggestionbest solutions: conflicts at political gatherings and meeting hall battle
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    "meeting hall battles" should be used as a historical term for Nazi times (which is only logical if englishspoken media called it like that before the WWII);

    for present cases I would use the term "conflicts at political gatherings", because a conflict suggests fight between 2 opposite parties, while riots referes more to riot of people against police, state, riot of students against management, etc. Someone here used a word slaughter, it's a bit too much, don't you think?
    #9Authorsigelm11 Dec 08, 12:53
     
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